Friday, October 06, 2006

Fast as a Fossil

by Dr. Gary Parker

First published in
Creation: Facts of Life
Chapter 3: The fossil evidence

All the courses I took concerning fossils were taught by professors who firmly believed in evolution. Yet, when it came to the kinds of life we studied, it seemed the actual evidence made it overwhelmingly difficult to believe in evolution and very easy to believe what the Bible says about Creation, Corruption, Catastrophe, and Christ.

But even if you could accept my conclusion, or, at least, consider it reasonable, I’m sure you’d have another question...
When I read this article on AnswersInGenesis it really excited me. I love reading about all the facts behind evolution and how most of them have no grounding whatsoever. So I decided to write on what was said. I found it very difficult to say anything that hadn't been said or in a way that wouldn't confuse the issue.

So this is what I'm going to do. Here is the link to the article and you can read it yourself. I know it isn't a short read but even if you just read the first half you'll come away with good foundation knowledge. The more you read the more you'll have to understand why evolutionist in the media and in schools aren't giving us all the facts.

Here is a small snippet to chew on first:
But even if you could accept my conclusion, or, at least, consider it reasonable, I’m sure you’d have another question:

How fast do fossils form, and how fast do rock layers get stacked up like we see in Grand Canyon? Believe me, those questions bothered me, too! I knew that some believed, for example, that even though God especially created the first of each kind, he “spaced out” His creative activity over a vast period of time, a sort of “progressive creation.”

Can science help us decide how fast fossils form, and how fast those sedimentary rock layers pile up? That’s what I wanted to know when I signed up for courses like Stratigraphy that deal in part with rates of sediment-layer formation.

Surprisingly enough, just about everybody—creationist, evolutionist, and everyone in between—agrees that individual fossil specimens themselves begin to form very, very rapidly! If a plant or animal just dies and falls to the ground or into the water, it’s quickly broken up and decomposed by scavengers, wind and water currents, even sunlight. Fallen logs, road kills, and dead aquarium fish don’t just become fossils, nor did the millions of bison slaughtered in America’s move west.

Most fossils are formed when a plant or animal is quickly and deeply buried, out of reach of scavengers and currents, usually in mud, lime, or sand sediment rich in cementing minerals that harden and preserve at least parts of the dead creatures. Evolutionists and creationists agree: the ideal conditions for forming most fossils and fossil-bearing rock layers are flood conditions. The debate is just whether it was many “little floods” over a long time, or mostly the one big Flood of Noah’s time. In fact, until Darwin’s theory came along, most educated laymen and scientists—including the founding fathers of geology—assumed that fossils were the remains of plants and animals buried in Noah’s Flood.
Read the rest and comment here to discuss what you thought of the piece.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I still dont really get what is your arguement here. Things that you labeled as "hard to believe" doesnt mean it is wrong. Things that you feel it's "easy to believe" doesnt make them right.

I believe that Christainity or other religious concepts should focus more on inner-self / spiritual development rather than keep whinning about the existence of Jesus Christ as son of GOD. But still I agree Jesus is a good and influencing leader with great personalities.

Kathy Grove said...

I have not had the pleasure of taking any course to learn the "theory" of layering, etc. But have been bothered for quite some time about how sediment is dated. I do believe that "ists" (which is what I hope to grow up to be someday-I'm only 35 now and have been at ome with my kids for the past 10 years) tend to go with whatever theory they were taught on--not neccessarily going after their own answers.

As for Darwin, a naturalist for certain! But come on--he based his theory of evolution on 21 days of observations--21 days! What he saw was clearly adaptation.

Christopher said...

Sorry I missed the first comment over 6 months ago - wow. As I don't even have much time right now all I'll say is that I hope you will look further into what Christianity actually is and what Jesus means to this world. Thanks for posting! :)

Kathy - Thank you also for posting. I really should get into putting more up on this blog. Its been a long time. Comments like this are a real encouragement and may influence me enough to begin writing again. I appreciate it!

Chris

Kathy Grove said...

How funny--I just logged back in to check this and only just saw that this was such an old thread!!

And thanks for your love. It is my opinion that the Lord has a "thumbprint" if you will, and because it is so recognizable, you always know who left it.

Anonymous said...

I do find it funny that when confronted on this arguement most firm creationists would argue that evolutionism has no grounding. Where is your grounding? A book written by exiles hundreds of years after the fact a man was crucified? Why was it written over and over so many times? Why are there things taken out and not shown to the public commonly? Perhaps instead of trying to decifer and misproove something you cant fully understand, read a bit more before saying something has no ground. Evolutionism makes far more sense than creationism. Id rather be decended from a fish than incestious dust

Anonymous said...

anonymous - yeah you, the guy before me, you are a heretic! If the inquisition were still around, you would be burning right now.

But modern christians have mercy and will spare you. After all, once you die you will know the truth...:)

Lol so guys - how did I do for trying to answer as a "devout" christian? They always sound like this, don't they?

I believe in evolution rather than fairy tales and bedtime stories.

Anonymous said...

So you believe in evolution, that means you gotta rip on religions? That's just lame man. If your going to tell people that you don't believe in a religion, atleast don't call it a fairy tale or anything.

b.rex79 said...

I'm a saved christian, and a paleontologist. I bugs me because if I believe in evolution that I am against the Bible when in fact the Bible didn't give instructions on creation, it just said they kind of appeared. Christians think sciece is there to disprove the Bible, and Scientists think Christianity is there to harm there science when it is simply easy to explain. God created the Earth and sciece explains how he did it. That's it. One note: marine reptiles and trilobites shared similar ecosystems, then why aren't they found together?

Anonymous said...

I think you need to read the Epic of Gilgamesh before you instantly believe that the bible is 100% original in every and all forms.

-Epic of Gilgamesh, written approx. 2500 B.C.E
-Old Testament, written approx. 1400 to 400 B.C.E

That makes the Epic of Gilgamesh about 1,000 years older than the Old Testament.

Noah's Ark/The Great Flood
---“And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.” -Genesis 6:13
---“Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits. A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.” -Genesis 14-16
---“But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.” -Genesis 18-19.
---“And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth. Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark; And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.” -Genesis 7-11

---“Utanapishtim spoke to Gilgamesh, saying: "I will reveal to you, Gilgamesh, a thing that is hidden, a secret of the gods I will tell you Shuruppak, a city that you surely know, situated on the banks of the Euphrates, that city was very old, and there were gods inside it. The hearts of the Great Gods moved them to inflict the Flood.” -Tablet XI 9-14
---“O man of Shuruppak, son of Ubartutu: Tear down the house and build a boat! The boat which you are to build, its dimensions must measure equal to each other: its length must correspond to its width. Roof it over like the Apsu.” - Tablet XI 24 and 28-30.
---“All the living beings that I had I loaded on it, I had all my kith and kin go up into the boat, all the beasts and animals of the field…” Tablet XI 84-85
---“When a seventh day arrived I sent forth a dove and released it. The dove went off, but came back to me; no perch was visible so it circled back to me. I sent forth a swallow and released it. The swallow went off, but came back to me; no perch was visible so it circled back to me. I sent forth a raven and released it. The raven went off, and saw the waters slither back. It eats, it scratches, it bobs, but does not circle back to me.” Tablet XI 145-154

I see some similarities.
Full Epic:
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/

Summarized:
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.htm]http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/GILG.htm

Anonymous said...

Fossils are formed over millions and millions of years. Scientific evidence proves that the Earth is AT LEAST 4.5 billion years old. There has been no evidence of the biblical "flood". Believe whatever you need to believe in, and tell yourself whatever you need to hear, but the fact is: There is A LOT of scientific evidence supporting the theory of evolution, and only an obscure story book to support the idea of catastophism and creationism. That is not to say that I don't think there is a God, I'm just saying you can't ignore the overwhelming facts right in front of you. Perhaps God did create the world in the very beginning, but you can't deny that EVOLUTION took place, and was the driving factor behind the development of all living things.

Anonymous said...

Thank God!
As of March 2009 the Vatican has declared an acceptance of Evolution by means of Natural Selection! It does not conflict with the teachings of the Bible. Please look into this, and read more about the exciting and divinely complex mechanisms of our earth!

Robert said...

While yes, it is true that the theory of evolution has evidence against it. I think you're completely overlooking the evidence FOR the theory of evolution. Why do you feel the need to go against the theory of evolution when i'm sure that's not what Jesus would have wanted at all. Jesus said many times to love thy neighbor. Everyone in the world being your neighbor. Including people who beleive in evolution. I am neither for nor against the theory, because I do not beleive in things I have no solid proof for. This taken into consideration I don't beleive in God either. I was born and raised a Christian, but I opened my eyes and my mind to other opportunities thus allowing myself to understand the message of not only the bible, but of every other holy book in existence. Love, forgiveness, respect. Please don't be blinded or biased by your beliefs, but don't allow evolution to get in their way either. Religion is a beautiful thing, it creates a basic set of morals for all humans to follow. The fact that one religion or belief is correct should be of no relevance, only what is good and right for everybody.

hemipode said...

I'm sure you've probably heard this before, but you sir is a naive, reality-denying man. are you proud of just pushing everything proving your believes wrong away? of course it's easier not questioning anything. it's a mental room, or cage rather, you've constructed to protect you from the fact that all we have is ourselves, the harsh nature, and knowledge based on FACTS. not childrens'stories written by old all too self-important men.

C from Sweden.

Anonymous said...

Well to be honest why is the bible right and not Darwin? I think that is unfair. What if our lord created evoloution and darwin was meant to look at it and figure it out? I don't appreciate what was said and find it very unneeded. Thank you